core: NWS Stopped Providing day/night forecast - it reports unavailable

The problem

The NWS integration with METAR code kmsn stopped providing the day/night forecast yesterday. It reports unavailable. I deleted and reinstalled the integration, and the problem persisted. I then deleted the integration and reinstalled with a different METAR code (kord), and the problem still persisted.

What version of Home Assistant Core has the issue?

2023.12.1

What was the last working version of Home Assistant Core?

2023.12.1

What type of installation are you running?

Home Assistant OS

Integration causing the issue

NWS

Link to integration documentation on our website

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/nws/

Diagnostics information

hass_log_of_nws_debug_data.log

Example YAML snippet

NA

Anything in the logs that might be useful for us?

Debug data is above - that's the only thing in the logs

Additional information

It became unavailable at 1:56 12/22/2023 CST

About this issue

  • Original URL
  • State: open
  • Created 6 months ago
  • Reactions: 17
  • Comments: 27 (2 by maintainers)

Most upvoted comments

FY’sI - This is a known outage, NWS plans to have it back up on January 1st.

cf. https://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/status/messages/

SENIOR DUTY METEOROLOGIST NWS ALERT ADMINISTRATIVE MESSAGE NWS NCEP CENTRAL OPERATIONS COLLEGE PARK MD 1837Z FRI DEC 22 2023

…API FORECAST GRIDPOINT OUTAGE UNTIL 1 JAN 2024…

Due to a known software issue, the API gridpoint forecast service will be unavailable until Monday 1 January 2024.

Kempisty/SDM/NCO/NCEP

If it’s still broken after that we can check back for an update.

Exact same issue here

The issue is on the NWS side. There NGINX server that hosts the API is not properly responding. If you go to the NWS documentation on their API and manually use it to pull API calls through the browser. When you try and pull the JSON info for the different forecasts you get a NGINX error.

Well, reloading the integration sort-of fixed the card - forecasts are back but now current temp/humidity are unknown (I don’t see them in the JSON data from KJFK or KFRG - the data there is stale from 2023-12-27).

So apparently something is still broken and so don’t see that in the known issues from NWS. (ETA: I’m getting current METAR data from other NWS systems, so this is clearly something fried in the API, I can’t imagine they’re not aware of it by now but I’ve sent a report in to the NCO team.)

Your tax dollars not so hard at work☹️

Here is a link to the post I just made about suggestions for going about using a backup weather service for those interested.

January 1st??? BUT SANTA NEEDS THE WEATHER FORECAST!!!

I’ve seen this over the past year and from what I can tell it won’t be fixed until a day or two has passed with “normal business hours”. It must only be checked on during the day by someone (nice that they have a bulletin for this outage). I personally have also been pulling data from the AccuWeather integration as well and when (not if) the NWS servers act up I use a template to supplement the missing NWS data (see HA community if not sure how to do that).