astropy: test_c_reader tests extremely slow on MacOS X with Python 3.8

The ASCII C reader tests are extremely slow (>5 minutes for just those tests) on my Mac (10.15) with Python 3.8 - I suspect maybe due to the change in default multiprocessing method to ‘spawn’ (this is a Python change):

% pytest astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py --durations=50 -v
Internet access disabled
================================================================= test session starts =================================================================
platform darwin -- Python 3.8.0, pytest-5.3.3.dev61+g4a265ba38.d20200114, py-1.8.0, pluggy-0.13.0 -- /Users/tom/python/dev/bin/python3.8
cachedir: .pytest_cache
Matplotlib: 3.1.1+2995.gbdcd9fcc3
Freetype: 2.6.1
hypothesis profile 'default' -> database=DirectoryBasedExampleDatabase('/Users/tom/tmp/astropy/.hypothesis/examples')

Running tests with Astropy version 4.1.dev27325.
Running tests in astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py.

Date: 2020-01-16T22:07:43

Platform: macOS-10.15.2-x86_64-i386-64bit

Executable: /Users/tom/python/dev/bin/python3.8

Full Python Version: 
3.8.0 (v3.8.0:fa919fdf25, Oct 14 2019, 10:23:27) 
[Clang 6.0 (clang-600.0.57)]

encodings: sys: utf-8, locale: UTF-8, filesystem: utf-8
byteorder: little
float info: dig: 15, mant_dig: 15

Package versions: 
Numpy: 1.18.0
Scipy: 1.3.2
Matplotlib: 3.1.1+2995.gbdcd9fcc3
h5py: 2.10.0
Pandas: 0.25.3
Cython: 0.29.14
Scikit-image: 0.16.2
asdf: 2.4.2
astropy-helpers: 4.0.1

Using Astropy options: remote_data: none.

rootdir: /Users/tom/tmp/astropy, inifile: setup.cfg
plugins: mpl-0.11, repeat-0.8.0, arraydiff-0.3, remotedata-0.3.2, hypothesis-5.1.2, asdf-2.4.2, cov-2.8.1, astropy-header-0.1.2, build-0.1.dev0, doctestplus-0.5.1.dev5+gd3d2207.d20191229, filter-subpackage-0.1.1, openfiles-0.5.0.dev0
collecting ... pytest_ignore_collect in doctestplus
pytest_ignore_collect in doctestplus
pytest_ignore_collect in doctestplus
pytest_ignore_collect in doctestplus
collected 136 items                                                                                                                                   

astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_simple_data[True] PASSED                                                                          [  0%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_simple_data[False] PASSED                                                                         [  1%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_read_types PASSED                                                                                 [  2%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_supplied_names[True] PASSED                                                                       [  2%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_supplied_names[False] PASSED                                                                      [  3%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_no_header[True] PASSED                                                                            [  4%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_no_header[False] PASSED                                                                           [  5%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_no_header_supplied_names[True] PASSED                                                             [  5%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_no_header_supplied_names[False] PASSED                                                            [  6%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_comment[True] PASSED                                                                              [  7%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_comment[False] PASSED                                                                             [  8%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_empty_lines[True] PASSED                                                                          [  8%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_empty_lines[False] PASSED                                                                         [  9%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_lstrip_whitespace[True] PASSED                                                                    [ 10%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_lstrip_whitespace[False] PASSED                                                                   [ 11%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_rstrip_whitespace[True] PASSED                                                                    [ 11%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_rstrip_whitespace[False] PASSED                                                                   [ 12%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_conversion[True] PASSED                                                                           [ 13%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_conversion[False] PASSED                                                                          [ 13%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_delimiter[True] PASSED                                                                            [ 14%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_delimiter[False] PASSED                                                                           [ 15%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_include_names[True] PASSED                                                                        [ 16%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_include_names[False] PASSED                                                                       [ 16%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_exclude_names[True] PASSED                                                                        [ 17%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_exclude_names[False] PASSED                                                                       [ 18%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_include_exclude_names[True] PASSED                                                                [ 19%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_include_exclude_names[False] PASSED                                                               [ 19%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_doubled_quotes PASSED                                                                             [ 20%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_doubled_quotes_segv PASSED                                                                        [ 21%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_quoted_fields[True] XFAIL                                                                         [ 22%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_quoted_fields[False] PASSED                                                                       [ 22%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_invalid_parameters[delimiter-,,] PASSED                                                           [ 23%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_invalid_parameters[comment-##] PASSED                                                             [ 24%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_invalid_parameters[data_start-None] PASSED                                                        [ 25%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_invalid_parameters[data_start--1] PASSED                                                          [ 25%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_invalid_parameters[quotechar-##] PASSED                                                           [ 26%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_invalid_parameters[header_start--1] PASSED                                                        [ 27%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_invalid_parameters[converters-val6] PASSED                                                        [ 27%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_invalid_parameters[Inputter-ContinuationLinesInputter] PASSED                                     [ 28%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_invalid_parameters[header_Splitter-DefaultSplitter] PASSED                                        [ 29%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_invalid_parameters[data_Splitter-DefaultSplitter] PASSED                                          [ 30%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_invalid_parameters_other PASSED                                                                   [ 30%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_too_many_cols1 PASSED                                                                             [ 31%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_too_many_cols2 PASSED                                                                             [ 32%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_too_many_cols3 PASSED                                                                             [ 33%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_not_enough_cols[True] PASSED                                                                      [ 33%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_not_enough_cols[False] PASSED                                                                     [ 34%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_end[True] PASSED                                                                             [ 35%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_end[False] PASSED                                                                            [ 36%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_inf_nan[True] PASSED                                                                              [ 36%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_inf_nan[False] PASSED                                                                             [ 37%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_fill_values[True] PASSED                                                                          [ 38%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_fill_values[False] PASSED                                                                         [ 38%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_fill_include_exclude_names[True] PASSED                                                           [ 39%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_fill_include_exclude_names[False] PASSED                                                          [ 40%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_many_rows[True] PASSED                                                                            [ 41%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_many_rows[False] PASSED                                                                           [ 41%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_many_columns[True] PASSED                                                                         [ 42%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_many_columns[False] PASSED                                                                        [ 43%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_fast_reader PASSED                                                                                [ 44%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_read_tab[True] XFAIL                                                                              [ 44%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_read_tab[False] PASSED                                                                            [ 45%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_default_data_start[True] PASSED                                                                   [ 46%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_default_data_start[False] PASSED                                                                  [ 47%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_commented_header[True] PASSED                                                                     [ 47%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_commented_header[False] PASSED                                                                    [ 48%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_rdb[True] PASSED                                                                                  [ 49%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_rdb[False] PASSED                                                                                 [ 50%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_start[True] XFAIL                                                                            [ 50%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_start[False] PASSED                                                                          [ 51%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_quoted_empty_values[True] XFAIL                                                                   [ 52%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_quoted_empty_values[False] PASSED                                                                 [ 52%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_csv_comment_default[True] PASSED                                                                  [ 53%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_csv_comment_default[False] PASSED                                                                 [ 54%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_whitespace_before_comment[True] PASSED                                                            [ 55%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_whitespace_before_comment[False] PASSED                                                           [ 55%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_strip_line_trailing_whitespace[True] PASSED                                                       [ 56%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_strip_line_trailing_whitespace[False] PASSED                                                      [ 57%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_no_data[True] PASSED                                                                              [ 58%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_no_data[False] PASSED                                                                             [ 58%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_line_endings[True] PASSED                                                                         [ 59%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_line_endings[False] PASSED                                                                        [ 60%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_store_comments[True] PASSED                                                                       [ 61%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_store_comments[False] PASSED                                                                      [ 61%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_empty_quotes[True] PASSED                                                                         [ 62%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_empty_quotes[False] PASSED                                                                        [ 63%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_fast_tab_with_names[True] PASSED                                                                  [ 63%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_fast_tab_with_names[False] PASSED                                                                 [ 64%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_read_big_table SKIPPED                                                                            [ 65%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_read_big_table2 SKIPPED                                                                           [ 66%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_out_of_range[False-False-True] SKIPPED                                                       [ 66%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_out_of_range[False-False-False] SKIPPED                                                      [ 67%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_out_of_range[False-fast_reader1-True] SKIPPED                                                [ 68%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_out_of_range[False-fast_reader1-False] SKIPPED                                               [ 69%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_out_of_range[False-fast_reader2-True] PASSED                                                 [ 69%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_out_of_range[False-fast_reader2-False] PASSED                                                [ 70%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_out_of_range[True-False-True] SKIPPED                                                        [ 71%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_out_of_range[True-False-False] SKIPPED                                                       [ 72%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_out_of_range[True-fast_reader1-True] SKIPPED                                                 [ 72%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_out_of_range[True-fast_reader1-False] SKIPPED                                                [ 73%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_out_of_range[True-fast_reader2-True] PASSED                                                  [ 74%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_out_of_range[True-fast_reader2-False] PASSED                                                 [ 75%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_at_range_limit[False-False-True] SKIPPED                                                     [ 75%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_at_range_limit[False-False-False] SKIPPED                                                    [ 76%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_at_range_limit[False-fast_reader1-True] PASSED                                               [ 77%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_at_range_limit[False-fast_reader1-False] PASSED                                              [ 77%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_at_range_limit[False-fast_reader2-True] PASSED                                               [ 78%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_at_range_limit[False-fast_reader2-False] PASSED                                              [ 79%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_at_range_limit[True-False-True] SKIPPED                                                      [ 80%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_at_range_limit[True-False-False] SKIPPED                                                     [ 80%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_at_range_limit[True-fast_reader1-True] SKIPPED                                               [ 81%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_at_range_limit[True-fast_reader1-False] SKIPPED                                              [ 82%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_at_range_limit[True-fast_reader2-True] SKIPPED                                               [ 83%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_at_range_limit[True-fast_reader2-False] SKIPPED                                              [ 83%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_int_out_of_range[False-True] PASSED                                                               [ 84%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_int_out_of_range[False-False] PASSED                                                              [ 85%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_int_out_of_range[True-True] PASSED                                                                [ 86%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_int_out_of_range[True-False] PASSED                                                               [ 86%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_int_out_of_order[True] PASSED                                                                     [ 87%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_int_out_of_order[False] PASSED                                                                    [ 88%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_fortran_reader[False-True] PASSED                                                                 [ 88%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_fortran_reader[False-False] PASSED                                                                [ 89%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_fortran_reader[True-True] PASSED                                                                  [ 90%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_fortran_reader[True-False] PASSED                                                                 [ 91%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_fortran_invalid_exp[False-True] PASSED                                                            [ 91%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_fortran_invalid_exp[False-False] PASSED                                                           [ 92%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_fortran_invalid_exp[True-True] PASSED                                                             [ 93%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_fortran_invalid_exp[True-False] PASSED                                                            [ 94%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_fortran_reader_notbasic PASSED                                                                    [ 94%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_dict_kwarg_integrity[fast_reader0-True] PASSED                                                    [ 95%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_dict_kwarg_integrity[fast_reader0-False] PASSED                                                   [ 96%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_dict_kwarg_integrity[fast_reader1-True] PASSED                                                    [ 97%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_dict_kwarg_integrity[fast_reader1-False] PASSED                                                   [ 97%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_read_empty_basic_table_with_comments[False] PASSED                                                [ 98%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_read_empty_basic_table_with_comments[fast_reader1] PASSED                                         [ 99%]
astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_read_empty_basic_table_with_comments[fast_reader2] PASSED                                         [100%]

============================================================== slowest 50 test durations ==============================================================
27.95s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_delimiter[True]
26.18s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_end[True]
21.19s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_line_endings[True]
20.89s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_fortran_invalid_exp[True-True]
16.59s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_fill_values[True]
15.64s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_commented_header[True]
14.95s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_at_range_limit[True-fast_reader1-True]
12.98s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_fill_include_exclude_names[True]
10.92s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_at_range_limit[True-fast_reader2-True]
10.44s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_at_range_limit[True-fast_reader1-False]
9.89s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_at_range_limit[True-fast_reader2-False]
7.69s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_fortran_invalid_exp[True-False]
6.96s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_include_exclude_names[True]
6.78s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_not_enough_cols[True]
6.77s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_include_names[True]
6.73s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_exclude_names[True]
6.41s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_lstrip_whitespace[True]
6.13s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_fortran_reader[True-False]
6.07s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_fortran_reader[True-True]
5.16s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_no_header_supplied_names[True]
5.13s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_no_header[True]
4.69s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_rstrip_whitespace[True]
4.56s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_supplied_names[True]
4.53s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_comment[True]
4.31s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_inf_nan[True]
4.28s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_empty_lines[True]
4.28s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_many_rows[True]
4.22s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_conversion[True]
4.00s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_many_columns[True]
3.85s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_csv_comment_default[True]
3.80s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_strip_line_trailing_whitespace[True]
3.67s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_out_of_range[True-fast_reader2-True]
3.65s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_whitespace_before_comment[True]
3.53s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_simple_data[True]
3.36s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_out_of_range[True-fast_reader2-False]
3.26s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_store_comments[True]
3.21s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_default_data_start[True]
3.03s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_rdb[True]
2.83s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_empty_quotes[True]
2.47s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_out_of_range[True-fast_reader1-True]
2.41s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_fast_tab_with_names[True]
2.25s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_int_out_of_range[True-True]
2.24s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_int_out_of_range[True-False]
2.24s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_data_out_of_range[True-fast_reader1-False]
1.32s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_fast_reader
1.10s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_read_empty_basic_table_with_comments[fast_reader1]
0.69s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_many_columns[False]
0.65s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_delimiter[False]
0.57s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_many_rows[False]
0.35s call     astropy/io/ascii/tests/test_c_reader.py::test_conversion[False]
=============================================== 114 passed, 18 skipped, 4 xfailed in 344.31s (0:05:44) ================================================

About this issue

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  • State: closed
  • Created 4 years ago
  • Comments: 15 (15 by maintainers)

Most upvoted comments

Yes, it is related (though I think we should keep this open separately in case people run into the issue via the test suite)